The Band debate was held on Oct. 18, from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m., with Eduardo Oinegue and Adriana Araújo as moderators, according to Poder360. According to the reports, Flávio Bolsonaro said on Oct. 13 that he would not attend and confirmed on Oct. 14; in the first round he won 47.03% and Lula 45.16%. EFE reported that Lula cited Daniel Vorcaro’s payments linked to a film about Jair Bolsonaro and that Flávio cited Lulinha, investigated in three cases. Lula said that “lying is the Bolsonaro family’s strong suit” and accused Eduardo Bolsonaro of plotting from the US. On the economy, Flávio criticized the R$ 11 trillion public debt and Lula defended the minimum wage and credit, according to a report reproduced by Congresso em Foco. Portal Flagrante and Cenário MT judged that the voter left without clear answers.
In a runoff that was decided by just over one point in the first round, the debate is one of the last occasions on which the two appear side by side before an audience that does not follow the campaign daily. The themes chosen, corruption in their inner circles and the cost of living, are the ones each side tries to pin on the opponent. Since the two cases cited, Banco Master and the inquiries into Lulinha, are under investigation, the debate also serves as a showcase for versions that have not yet passed through the scrutiny of the courts.
For those who will vote on Oct. 25, the debate is the only format in which the two answer the same question at the same time. It is worth separating what is recorded fact (the investigations exist) from accusation without proof presented on stage, such as each side’s one-liners.
For those who judged Lula’s performance, according to reports, he kept to his message on income and jobs and used the Master case to press Flávio on the origin of the money for the film. The argument is that the topic is verifiable and under Federal Police investigation.
For those who judged Flávio’s performance, according to the same reports, he managed to put the cost of living and public debt at the center and returned the corruption accusation by citing the inquiries into Lulinha. The argument is that the government is the one answerable for results.
It is confirmed that the debate took place, who took part and what each said; it is not confirmed who “won,” and no post-debate poll has been released so far. What is worth following this week is the next round of polls and the Globo debate, on Oct. 23.
EFE via CNN en Español and Infobae (Oct. 19); El Tiempo (Oct. 19); Congresso em Foco and A Notícia do Vale (Oct. 19); Poder360, Gazeta SP and O Povo (Oct. 13–15)
Lula and Flávio Bolsonaro trade corruption accusations in first runoff debate, on Band
Sunday’s (Oct. 18) clash revolved around Vorcaro, Lulinha, security and the cost of living; the runoff is on October 25.
The first runoff debate between President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva (PT) and Senator Flávio Bolsonaro (PL) was held on Sunday (Oct. 18) on Band, from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m., moderated by journalists Eduardo Oinegue and Adriana Araújo, according to Poder360 and the broadcaster. Flávio had said on Oct. 13 that he would not attend, but confirmed on Wednesday (Oct. 14), after Lula confirmed his own attendance, according to Gazeta SP and O Povo. In the first round, Flávio won 47.03% of the votes (56.1 million) and Lula 45.16% (53.8 million), figures cited in the reports. The EFE agency, reproduced by CNN en Español and Infobae, reported that the clash revolved around suspicions of corruption in the circles of both candidates. Lula questioned Flávio about payments from Daniel Vorcaro, former owner of Banco Master, that would have financed a film about Jair Bolsonaro, a case under investigation by the Federal Police. According to EFE, Flávio answered with the line “your nose is growing, Lula, be careful.”
Also according to EFE and El Tiempo, Flávio attacked Lulinha, Lula’s son, who is investigated in three cases for alleged influence peddling; Lula replied that the senator was also protected by his father, said he hides nothing and has not fired a judge, an allusion to Sérgio Moro’s departure from Jair Bolsonaro’s government, and stated that “lying is the Bolsonaro family’s strong suit.” Flávio said the Lula government had become a marketplace for deals and that its administrations have always been marked by corruption. Lula accused Flávio’s brother, Eduardo Bolsonaro, of plotting from the United States. On the economy, according to a report reproduced by A Notícia do Vale and Congresso em Foco, Lula defended his legacy, the rise in the minimum wage, more credit and investment in industry and innovation, with the idea of making “money circulate in people’s hands.” Flávio opened with questions about food prices, called the R$ 11 trillion public debt “yet another negative record” and proposed that the government buy people’s and companies’ debts from the banks at a reduced price. Portal Flagrante wrote that both were on the defensive, and Cenário MT that the undecided voter left without clear answers.